Sack the BBC! We won’t pay the licence fee.

“Sack the BBC! We won’t pay the licence fee”, was the hue and cry of the lunatic Nationalist flash mob fringe attending a demo at Pacific Quay yesterday. It was reported that the BBC janitor suffered cracked ribs from laughing too much. And yesterday wasn’t even a day scheduled for a full moon. “Crackpot website” Newsnet Scotland Tweeted that the event was attended by 2000 people. AhDinnaeKen decided to apply some basic physics based on crowd densities to see if the figures stacked up. Hint! They didn’t:

Measurements based on scale provided by Google maps image.  Red area is area immediately in front of Newsnet camera pan.

Pacific Quay measurements based on scale provided by Google maps. Red area is area immediately in front of Newsnet camera pan (below) with approx 17 people in it.

By Longshanker aka @ergasiophobe

ON SEP 21 2013 at Calton Hill, Edinburgh, Nicola Sturgeon roared: “You know how many people they are saying are here with us today? Not 10,000, not 20,000, but 30,000 people appearing for independence.

It was a lie. Or to be charitable, it was a communally shared delusion engaged in for the sake of making political capital and building voter morale.

AhDinnaeKen debunked the Sturgeon nonsense using basic crowd density ratios, surface area and distance variables here.

Now, following a worrying outbreak of the modern day Scottish version of the Ranters at Pacific Quay yesterday, the Nationalists are at it again.

Newsnet Scotland claimed that more than 2000 people attended the event…

Scientific evidence Newsnet style. A video pan at ground level. CSI Crackpot.

Scientific evidence Newsnet style. A video pan at ground level. CSI Crackpot with GA Ponseybody.

To back up the claimed figure they provided a YouTube link using a woeful panning shot, filmed virtually from eye level. And they relied upon the shot as if it was some sort of proof.

When you engage in a cheap stunt like that, you have to account for variables such as height perspective, crop factor, distance and surface area.

It's worth noting that there are people on bikes. Free space a go-go.

A frame from Newsnet’s video pan. It’s worth noting that there are people on bikes in the foreground. Free space a go-go.

Take a look at the picture above. Count the people to the left and immediate middle and you’ll reach 17 or thereabouts. The area, when matched with the Google map above, is approx 64 -100m sq – as highlighted by the red area .

In terms of body density to metre square the ratio could be anything between 0.27 to 0.17.

The collection area in front of the BBC building measures approx 2000sq metres i.e. it’s 50m * 40m when measured using the Google scale provided.

2000 multiplied by by 0.27 equals approx 530 people. At the more realistic density level of 0.17 it equals approximately 350 people. Either way, it’s nowhere remotely near 2000 people. So quite where the figure of 2000 came from, we*’d like to know.

And, it was notable that @ergasiophobe’s straw poll estimate of 300 – 500 matched up with the police estimate reported by the “British Brainwashing Corporation”.

Inserted for vanity purposes. We estimated this figure before the BBC reported the police estimate of "a maximum of 350 protestors".

Inserted for vanity purposes. We* estimated this figure before the BBC reported the police estimate of “a maximum of 350 protestors”.

The astute and the sceptical could rightly argue that the crowd density figure estimated above could be higher.

But… watch some of the livestream video beamed to the ‘watching world’ by internet TV. At no point does the roaming cameraperson even look like like bumping into anyone – there’s plenty of free space throughout the assembly area.

If you take the time to watch the walkabout sections, you’ll clearly see large open empty spaces everywhere.

According to crowd behaviour expert Dr. Dirk Oberhagemann – who documented the crowd crush tragedy at the Love Parade – free movement like that only occurs when the ratio is well below 1.

We* look forward to our crowd estimate being debunked. It’s at least four times more accurate than Newsnet Scotland’s pitiful attempt.

Next!

 

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11 Comments

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11 responses to “Sack the BBC! We won’t pay the licence fee.

  1. 3truths

    I would be keen to see ‘rev’ Stu’s response to this article, as he is an expert in the field of crowds.

    • Alec

      That and:

      hDinnaeKen decided to apply some basic physics based on crowd densities to see if the figures stacked up.

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha… ~*pauses to breathe*~ … hahahahahahahahaha.

      ~alec

  2. 3truths

    Looks like lots of space around.

    • Dear All

      Having watched this video, I think the amount of people is nowhere near 2,000.

      As to being just ordinary people who happened to turn up, this crowd was organised. You can tell that by the way this video was produced and the various yessers covering the event.

      The funny bit is at around .6.40 ish when the Wings contributor says a new Scotland wouldn’t have cronyism, as an ex SNP member, that guy is talking utter rubbish. Type into Google SNP vote rigging, you find the ones that do it, know Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon. In the last EU election, all Glasgow candidates were Sturgeon cronies, not one single ordinary rank and file SNP member selected.

      Not one single ordinary rank and file SNP member selected.

      I think the phrase I would use to that guy is “F**k off idiot”!

      Yours sincerely

      George laird
      The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

      • George.

        Indeed. The misty eye fervor as the vision of MacShangrila overcomes his imagination at the potential of new political landscapes.

        I wish I had his gift for self delusion. He’s a Wanger and that immediately puts him at a disadvantage.

        Regards

      • Alec

        Re cronyism, how many senior FBU figures are going to get a nice list position?

        ~alec

    • 3truths

      Better quality video by the media student and the shots tend to reinforce the figures estimated here.

      Regards

  3. David Nelson

    As much as I dislike Wings Over Scotland’s ridiculously combative style of campaigning, none of the pro-independence sites are quite so liberal with the truth as Newsnet Scotland. They regularly post articles that are simply flat out lies – the “Credit rating confirms Scotland will get AAA credit rating” article, for instance, was so clearly misleading that even Business for Scotland and the rest stopped short of running it in that form, but Newsnet Scotland did it anyway.

    They clearly have no intention of even remotely sticking to facts and will quite happily post whatever suits their agenda – even when someone directly points out precisely why their claim is flawed.

    • Thankyou David

      They earned the “crackpot” moniker from the Daily Record.

      It takes some kind of other worldly disconnect to print some of the pish they publish.

      Regards

  4. Was going to say how much it reminded of the THEURTY THOOSAND Bravehearts of Carlton Hill.

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